NEWS RELEASE

March 12, 2002                                                                                                   For Immediate Release

PRIME MINISTER’S OBJECTIVE FOR THE GUN REGISTRY IS NOT BEING MONITORED

“Auditor General’s 1993 directive to evaluate the effectiveness of gun control programs is being ignored too.”

 

Yorkton – Today, Garry Breitkreuz, the Official Opposition’s gun control critic, used information obtained under the authority of the Access to Information Act (ATI) to embarrass the Liberals and the Department of Justice yet again.  “It’s clear from these documents that the government doesn’t have a clue what it’s doing.  They’re plowing hundreds of millions of dollars into a program that they don’t know is effective or not,” said Breitkreuz.

 

On April 22, 1999, Prime Minister Jean Chretien was quoted in the National Post clearly stating that the goal of the new gun registry is to make “less guns available.”  On August 2, 2001, Breitkreuz filed an ATI request asking for “the government’s short-term and long-term projections of the number of guns and gun owners in Canada.”  On January 9, 2002, the government provided 115 pages of records without any short-term and long-term projections as requested.  Three pages were not disclosed because they were declared Cabinet secrets.  Breitkreuz has filed a complaint with the Information Commissioner of Canada.

 

In his 1993 report to Parliament, the Auditor General of Canada wrote: As well, our review of the new [gun control] regulations indicated that important data, needed to assess the potential benefits and future effectiveness of the regulations, were not available at the time the regulations were drafted.  Because of this, we believe it is important that the measures chosen by the government be evaluated at the earliest opportunity. [Item 27.3 - Page 647]  Despite promises to the contrary, the Department of Justice responses to several of Breitkreuz’s ATI requests prove that the Liberals have ignored the Auditor General’s recommendation for the last nine years.

 

1.      The government has no data on the number of violations of more than 70,000 firearms prohibition orders [Justice ATI File: A-2001-0299];

2.       The government has no data on the number of guns confiscated from more than 70,000 persons who are prohibited from owning firearms; or as a result of more than 4,000 refused and revoked firearms licences [Justice ATI File: A-2001-0251];

3.       The government has no data on the number of guns confiscated as a result of government decrees banning hundreds of different types of firearms [Justice ATI File: A-1999-0252 and RCMP File: 00-07687];

4.      The government has never checked with licenced firearms dealers to see who purchased these prohibited firearms; and

5.       The government can’t produce any evidence to show why these guns were so dangerous that they needed to be banned in the first place [Justice ATI File: A-1999-0252].

 

“Even the 4-year mandatory minimum sentences aren’t working,” said Breitkreuz.  To prove his point, the Saskatchewan MP quoted from the February 13, 2002, edition of The Hamilton Spectator: A man linked to Montreal street gangs who was arrested with two loaded handguns after a kidnapping and robbery in Niagara Falls got a 10-month jail sentence yesterday after throwing himself on the mercy of the court. [Page A08]

 

“In 1993, the Department of Justice promised to do ongoing evaluations of their gun control legislation.  The evidence clearly shows that the department has not kept their promise.  It’s been nine years since the Auditor General of Canada looked at the effectiveness of our gun laws.  In just the last six years, the Liberals have wasted $700 million trying to implement their totally ineffective gun registry.  The time has come for the Auditor General to have another look,” concluded Breitkreuz.

 

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SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FOR MARCH 12TH RELEASE

By Garry Breitkreuz, MP – March 8, 2002

 

 

PRIME MINISTER’S STATED OBJECTIVE FOR

THE GUN REGISTRY: “WITH LESS GUNS AVAILABLE”

 

Breitkreuz ATI Request to Dept. of Justice dated August 2, 2001: On Thursday, April 22, 1999, Prime Minister Jean Chretien was quoted in the National Post: “I’ve always been committed to gun control," he said.  “Even with gun control we might have some problems, we’ve seen that here in Ottawa…But at least with less guns available you have less chance of seeing tragedies like that.” [Emphasis added]  Given that the Prime Minister’s publicly stated objective of the government’s gun control program is to make “less guns available” please provide copies of records documenting the government’s short-term and long-term projections for the number of guns and gun owners in Canada.

 

Breitkreuz complaint to the Information Commissioner of Canada regarding the Department of Justice response to Dept. of Justice ATIP File: A-2001-0156/ms: You will note that the department has not provided any documents with respect to the “long-term projections of the number of guns and gun owners in Canada” as we specifically requested.  The Prime Minister of Canada has specifically stated that the goal of the program is to reduce the number of firearms.  It is inconceivable that the department has not responded to the Prime Minister’s clearly stated policy objective with documentation showing how his goal will be achieved and the results expected year-by-year for the next ten or fifteen years.  The Prime Minister would also expect the department to produce documents showing the correlation between the projected reduction in the number of firearms and the impact this will have on firearms crime.

 

NO DATA ON VIOLATIONS OF FIREARMS PROHIBITION ORDERS

 

Breitkreuz ATI Request to Dept. of Justice dated February 6, 2002: Justice Department documents show a “cumulative total” of 70,796 persons prohibited from owning firearms.  Please provide copies of reports showing the number of persons who have violated their prohibition orders since January 1, 1995, and the punishment imposed for these violations.

 

Dept. of Justice Response (ATIP File: A-2001-0299/mb) dated February 28, 2002:  I must advise you that a search of the records under the control of the Department of Justice has revealed none on this subject.  The Canadian Firearms Program does not have any reports about the number of violations of prohibition orders and punishments imposed.

 

NO DATA ON NUMBER OF GUNS CONFISCATED AS A RESULT OF

REFUSED AND REVOKED LICENCES OR FIREARMS PROHIBITION ORDERS

 

Breitkreuz ATI Request to Dept. of Justice dated December 17, 2001: The Justice Minister’s news release dated December 5, 2001, stated: “Since December 1, 1998, over 4,000 firearms licences have been refused or revoked by public safety authorities.”  Since December 1, 1998, please provide copies of records and reports that show the number and types of firearms that have been confiscated as a result of firearms licences that have been refused and revoked and as a result of court ordered firearms prohibitions.

 

Dept. of Justice Response (ATIP File: A-2001-0251/mb) dated January 29, 2002: I must advise you that a search of the records under the control of the Department of Justice has revealed none on this subject.  The Canadian Firearms Centre informs us that the Canadian Firearms Registry does not keep statistics on the confiscation of firearms.

 


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NO DATA ON THE NUMBER OF GUNS CONFISCATED AS A RESULT OF

BANNING HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF FIREARMS

 

Breitkreuz ATI Request to Dept. of Justice dated February 14, 2000: Please provide copies of all reports, briefing notes, records and correspondence which document: (1) The factors considered and the reasons why the government prohibited the Feather Model AT-9 semi-auto carbine (i.e. number of crimes committed with this firearm, etc); (2) The decision-making process involved in issuing the prohibition order; (3) The cost of processing, passing, implementing and maintaining this prohibition order;, and (4) The results achieved by the prohibition of this firearm (i.e. the number of firearms turned in to police, the number of firearms confiscated, compensation paid to owners, number of firearms destroyed, the reduction of crime, etc, etc.

 

Dept. of Justice Response (ATIP File: A—1999-0252/rr) dated April 14, 2000: Please note that the department does not collect all of the information which you have requested.  In part one of your request, you asked for the number of crimes committed with this particular weapon.  The department does not keep statistics of that nature.  Part three of your request was for the cost of processing, passing, implementing and maintaining this prohibition order; again, the department does not capture information related to this aspect of your request.  Finally, in part four of your request, you asked for the results achieved from the prohibition of this firearm, citing specifically the number of firearms turned in, the number confiscated, compensation paid, the number of firearms destroyed and the reduction of crime.  No compensation was paid, as the Order-in-Council prohibiting this firearm did not offer compensation, as you will see from the enclosed records.  In respect to statistics, statistics on reduction of crimes associated with this weapon are not kept.  Statistics on the number of Feather Model AT-9’s turned in, confiscated or destroyed may be available from the RCMP Register.

 

Breitkreuz ATI Request to the RCMP dated February 14, 2000: Please provide copies of all records and information available on the Feather Model AT-9 that was prohibited under Prohibited Weapons Order No. 11.  Information requested includes: the total number of crimes committed with this firearm, the total number imported into Canada, the total number registered in the Canadian Firearms Registry, the total number turned in to police, the total number destroyed by police, the total number exported out of Canada, the cost to the RCMP to implement and maintain this prohibition order.

 

RCMP Response (RCMP File: 00ATIP-07687) dated March 10, 2000: Based on the information provided, a search for records was conducted in Ottawa (Ontario).  Please be advised that we were unable to locate any information relating to your request.

 

NOTE: The RCMP never contacted licenced firearms dealers to determine how many Feather Model AT-9s they imported into Canada, how many they sold or to request the names of the persons they sold the newly banned firearms to.  On May 15, 2000, one firearms dealer provided the following documentation on the Feather AT-9 for his store: “imported 75, returned 7, sold 68.”  He still has the names and addresses on file of every customer who purchased the now prohibited Feather AT-9.

 

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE 1993 PROMISES TO THE AUDITOR GENERAL

Recommendations

 

27.50    The Department of Justice should undertake a rigorous evaluation of the gun control program.

 

Department’s response:  The current gun control initiative made only limited use of the 1983 evaluation.  More reliance was placed on the statistics available since the seventies on homicides, suicides, accidental deaths, and robberies.  In any event, the legislation and regulations were driven by clear public interest considerations, which need to be acted upon despite the absence of precise data.  The Department monitors the gun control program on an ongoing basis.  In order to supplement this, the department always intended to undertake an evaluation of this initiative.  Evaluation plans have been under development for some time but any new evaluable issues raised by the Auditor General and not included in our plans will be added.  [Page 654]